Monday, November 06, 2006

Science Versus God...Is This The Beginning of the Godless End Time?




God vs. science: Can religion stand up to the test?
POSTED: 10:01 a.m. EST, November 5, 2006


(Time.com) -- It's a debate that long predates Darwin, but the anti-religion position is being promoted with increasing insistence by scientists angered by intelligent design and excited, perhaps intoxicated, by their disciplines' increasing ability to map, quantify and change the nature of human experience.

Brain imaging illustrates -- in color -- the physical seat of the will and the passions, challenging the religious concept of a soul independent of glands and gristle. Brain chemists track imbalances that could account for the ecstatic states of visionary saints or, some suggest, of Jesus.

Catholicism's Christoph Cardinal Schönborn has dubbed the most fervent of faith-challenging scientists followers of "scientism" or "evolutionism," since they hope science, beyond being a measure, can replace religion as a worldview and a touchstone.

It is not an epithet that fits everyone wielding a test tube. But a growing proportion of the profession is experiencing what one major researcher calls "unprecedented outrage" at perceived insults to research and rationality, ranging from the alleged influence of the Christian right on Bush administration science policy, to the fanatic faith of the 9/11 terrorists, to intelligent design's ongoing claims. Some are radicalized enough to publicly pick an ancient scab -- the idea that science and religion, far from being complementary responses to the unknown, are at utter odds.

Finding a spokesman for this side of the question was not hard, since Richard Dawkins, perhaps its foremost polemicist, has just come out with "The God Delusion" (Houghton Mifflin), the rare volume whose position is so clear it forgoes a subtitle.

The five-week New York Times best seller (now at No. 8) attacks faith philosophically and historically as well as scientifically, but leans heavily on Darwinian theory, which was Dawkins' expertise as a young scientist and more recently as an explicator of evolutionary psychology.

Dawkins and his peers have a swarm of articulate theological opponents, of course. But the most ardent of these don't really care very much about science, and an argument in which one party stands immovable on Scripture and the other immobile on the periodic table doesn't get anyone very far.

Most Americans occupy the middle ground: We want it all. We want to cheer on science's strides and still humble ourselves on the Sabbath. We want access to both MRIs and miracles. We want debates about issues like stem cells without conceding that the positions are so intrinsically inimical as to make discussion fruitless.

Informed conciliators have recently become more vocal, and foremost among them is Francis Collins. Collins' devotion to genetics is, if possible, greater than Dawkins'.

Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute since 1993, he headed a multinational 2,400-scientist team that co-mapped the 3 billion biochemical letters of our genetic blueprint, a milestone that then-President Bill Clinton honored in a 2000 White House ceremony, comparing the genome chart to Meriwether Lewis' map of his fateful continental exploration. Collins continues to lead his institute in studying the genome and mining it for medical breakthroughs.

He is also a forthright Christian who converted from atheism at age 27 and now finds time to advise young evangelical scientists on how to declare their faith in science's largely agnostic upper reaches.

His summer best seller, "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief" (Free Press), laid out some of the arguments he brought to bear in the 90-minute debate Time arranged between Dawkins and Collins in our offices at the Time & Life Building on September 30.

Okay, so let me get this straight. Science says there is no God. Just what proofs are they offering? None, None, and None.
Don't get me wrong, I think science is a wonderful thing, but, like a Hollywood actor doing ads for politicians...it just doesn't cut the mustard. They do not belong in the field of faith.
I happen to know a scientist who is well known in government circles. he's the son of a fellow parishoner. He says that "off the record" all the research he has done has simply made him believe that all of creation is guided by a higher authority with a higher level of intelligence. He also says that it is arrogance on man's part for any scientist to deny this basic fact, when if he would simply look at the overall plan of the physical world, it becomes apparent that there is, indeed, a God.
Personally, I love and know God very well. He is always there when I need a shoulder or a helping hand. I may not always get what I want, but He's always there. God is my science and my faith. I feel that science gives us proofs of how God works, but cannot disprove something it is apparently blind to. Have a great week, and God bless!

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At Monday, 06 November, 2006, Blogger Seven Star Hand said...

Hello Larry,

Here's my two bits on this intractable debate. Hope you and others can appreciate my efforts to provide a key to a true solution for humanity's seemingly never-ending cycle of struggle and despair.

Analyzing the Creator Debate

Did you ever consider that atheism arose because certain people saw that religious characterizations about the nature of an omnipotent "God" were seriously flawed and then concluded that religion and the Creator were the same things? This is the exact same conclusion at the base of religious beliefs; namely that the Creator and religion are inseparable. Consequently, both atheists and religious followers are arguing over a flawed assumption without considering that other possibilities negate the common core conclusion of both groups. These arguments are actually over religion and whether it represents a reliable model of reality. The answer to this question is of course not. Religion is not only flawed, it is purposely deceptive! Though atheists are certainly sincere in their conclusions, the fact remains that they and religious followers are locked in a debate that cannot be won by either side because both base their positions upon whether the same flawed premise is the truth. In order for this debate to conclude with a truthful answer, a greater level of discernment is required.

One apt clarifying question is, if someone tells lies about you, does that negate you or make you a liar or a lie? Certainly, the image cast about you would be a false one, but that is their image, not the real you. Consequently, faulty religious assertions about the Creator of this universe do not negate the existence of a Creator. Considering the possibility that this universe is not by chance leaves the door open to how it arose, which leads us to seek what could have created and maintained it. Since neither religion nor science has yet adequately answered this question, it is safe to conclude that those who argue about the Creator based on either are most certainly wrong about one or more aspects. Therefore, another point of view and additional knowledge are required.

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At Tuesday, 05 December, 2006, Blogger Larry said...

I was an atheist and a hedonist for nearly 30 years. I once believed as you seem to. I believed in myself, In my abilities. I didn't trust any other source of wisdom. That wisdom didn't exist because I didn't accept it. Man is sometimes vile and incorrigible, but God loves us. There is no reason. It is Grace. It is God's gift. His love. Denial of this love is denial of life. It leads to a bleak, desolate existence that is barren and self-contained. I hope you one day find your faith and follow it. You have my prayers because you have my sincerest sympathy. You will need all the prayers you can get, because prayers indicate care. Sincerity. All are rare commodities in today's world of God-denial.
I am reminded of something Jesus said: "Beware for many will come in my name saying 'I am He, or, I have the answer'. Jesus, of course, is saying to whoever will listen is to beware the answer that seems so obvious and provable. No man has the ultimate truth except God, and if you do not seek God, you will never find the way to the truth.

With Christ's Love,
larry

 

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